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    Janetta Pegues & Allen Schwartz Joint Interview

    Content Warnings: None

    Audio Quality Notes: Audio quality is good! A little bit of echoey-ness given the small room in which the interview took place.

    At a Glance

    Public Housing Residency: Jane Addams Homes, ABLA, aka “The Village”

    Themes: gentrification, neighborhood change, racial equity, community

    Content Warnings: None

    Primary time periods: 1940s–1980s

    Primary locations: Near West Side, Chicago, “The Village” aka ABLA

    Keywords: school, friends, family, “the projects”, neighborhood change, gardening, memory

    Descriptive Context

    Interview Summary

    Content Warnings: None

    In this oral history, narrators Janetta and Allen share their memories of growing up in public housing and life on Taylor Street. With varying timelines and viewpoints of their homes, the narrators take turns sharing how things in Jane Addams varied between the 40 year time span shared between the two.

    About the Narrator

    Narrator Full Name: Janetta Pegues & Allen Schwartz Joint Interview

    Narrator pronouns: she/her (Janetta); he/him (Allen)

    Refer to as: None

    Self-identified race and/or ethnicity: Black/African American (Janetta); white Jewish (Allen)

    Biographical Context:

    [Janetta] I live in the Greater Grand Crossing community on the Southeast side of Chicago. Home is full of love and life!

     

    [Allen] I was born and raised in the projects in Chicago, and I now live on the Near North side of the city in a condominium that I own. I retired from a career with the federal government. In retirement, I have been very fortunate to be involved with the great Theatre scene that we have here,  and I have also been an architecture tour guide. I am passionate about the arts. Theatre, dance, architecture, Fine Art, add a great deal of pleasure to my life. I am also a foodie and enjoy good food and, occasionally, some nice wine. I’ve also been lucky enough to have traveled extensively to many parts of the world. My volunteer activity, which continues to this day, involves Chicago’s Theatre scene, and acting as a Greeter for visitors to Chicago.

    Life Dates:
    • Birth: 1943 (Allen); 1962 (Janetta)
    About the Interview

    Interviewer: Liú m.z.h. Chen

    Date of Interview: 2023-11-03

    Method of Interview: in-person

    Location of Interview: Chicago

    Language: English

    Duration: 00:38:46

    Formats Available: None

    Audio Quality and other notes: Audio quality is good! A little bit of echoey-ness given the small room in which the interview took place.

    Post-Production by: Cosmo J.

    Contextual Information Last Updated: None

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